WWT Podcast
Waterlands
Immerse yourself in the sounds of the riverbank, crashing tides, wild marshes filled with birds and the underwater sounds of the humble pond.
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Series 3 > Episode 6: Eels and Estuaries
Where does a river become sea? And where do eels live? In this episode of Waterlands, Megan McCubbin takes us to the Severn estuary – one of the most dynamic estuarine systems in the world and also one of the most important for wildlife in Britain, in search of eels. Joining her on this quest, are three eel fanatics, who have come to know and love this slippery fish from three different perspectives.
Michael Malay is an academic and author, whose book about migration and belonging, Late Lights, recalls the first time he held an elver in his hand. He is drawn to estuaries and stories of belonging and remembers how his mind was blown when he first heard the lifecycle of the European eel.
Andy Don explains the elusive nature of the eel and how confounding and fascinating they are from a scientist’s point of view. Once everywhere, all up and down river systems, to the point of being eaten by the poor and used as fertiliser or taxes, the eel is now critically endangered.
And WWT’s Abigail Mckay explains how the Wetlands Bioscience Team is using cutting-edge eDNA technology to find where eels are – and where they are not, in an attempt to help remove barriers and increase their numbers again.
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Series 1 > Episode 1: Water on our doorstep
60% of us are predicted to be living in cities in 2050. But what happens when creatures once so wild become so far removed from nature? The answer is, it doesn’t have to be this way. In this episode we travel to London Wetland Centre to find out just how wild urban nature can be, and why it’s important that we fight back against urbanisation with pockets of mini wetlands connecting our cities into true watery metropolises.
Series 1 > Episode 2: Feeling blue
‘65% of people say spending time by water improves their wellbeing’. We know this intrinsically, but why does being by water make us feel better, and can we harness its power? We travel to some of our most tranquil wetlands to explore the topic further. We meet those whose lives have been changed for the better by these places, hear practical tips for improving your wellbeing from experts in nature prescribing, and the emerging science that reveals just how it works.
We also speak to a former city-dwelling fashion designer who created a wildlife pond from scratch, and what they learned.
Series 1 > Episode 3: The mermaid and the quest for cleaner water
To start this story, we meet a mermaid swimmer at Conham River Park in Bristol. She swam as a mermaid down the Avon to raise awareness of plastic pollution, but soon ran afoul – literally – of another issue when she suddenly fell very ill. We also discuss exactly why our waterways are in this mess, and how we might be able to fix it. We then head up to Gloucestershire to find a very special man-made wetland on the banks of the Severn, and explore how they can protect us from some of the truly horrifying nasties that make their way into our water.
Series 1 > Episode 4: Mangroves, marshes and the climate emergency
This episode takes us first to the wild coastline of Somerset and Steart Marshes, where the threatened land has been dramatically shaped by water in quite a marvellous way, thanks to some brave locals and pioneering landscape realignment. From the vast to the tiny, we then visit a wildlife pond with a sound recordist to discover a mini-underwater jungle and how these ‘insect chimneys’ can bring back all sorts of wildlife. We then take a trip to the mangroves of Madagascar to explore this little explored yet hard-working blue carbon store.
Series 1 > Episode 5: Fighting water with water
What would you do if the unthinkable happened and you suddenly found your home underwater? This is a situation experienced by a growing number of people, as storms tear across the UK, but some people turn this experience into an unexpectedly positive lesson. We look at why we need to be more beaver to help steward the water across our lands, and why flooding isn’t black and white – in fact, nature needs floods in unexpected ways, and we meet a flood historian to explore why we do too.
Series 1 > Episode 6: A watery future
You might be forgiven for thinking after visiting all these wonderful wetlands that our lands are still covered in water. Unfortunately, we’ve lost over 90% since Roman times. It’s hard to imagine what that might have been like, so take a time travel to a world when pelicans swooped from the skies, aurochs roamed carefree and wild pigs acted as ecosystem engineers to create wetlands themselves. We also discuss what can be done to rewild our wetlands, or even better, go one step further and actively restore them to what could once only be dreamed of.
Series 2 > Episode 1: The remarkable garden pond
When you think of ponds, do you think of the dizzying array of creatures that live within them? More than tadpoles and dragonflies, the humble pond is vital to entire ecosystems, and a small garden pond often supports more biodiversity than even a lake or river. And the best thing is – we’re never far from one.
Whether it’s a bucket on an urban balcony or a mighty farm pond filled with amphibians and insects, these mini-wetlands can offer huge benefits to wildlife as well as our own wellbeing. In this episode we travel to Henry Slator’s garden pond in Devon to learn how it’s tranquillity and creatures helped Henry recover during his cancer treatment, and was the inspiration for his book, Conversations at the Pond. We also take a peek inside the world of the dragonfly at London Wetland Centre.
Series 2 > Episode 2: Ponds and potatoes
In years gone by a walk through farmland wouldn’t be complete without passing a pond or two. But sadly they’re increasingly rare on farms, but why?
In this episode we head down to the farm to find out more about why rather than filling them in, farmers are now understanding the benefits that ponds can have in creating biodiversity. in Devon is one of the UK’s most well known organic farms and they’re bringing new life to the land, such as helping to provide homes for hungry toads, who are keeping the slugs off your lettuces. Riverford founder Guy Singh-Watson tells us all about it and how his perceptions of ponds have changed throughout his life. We also head to in London to meet vet and conservationist Sean McCormack who’s work there is helping to preserve the great crested newt in ponds which were once farmland ponds.
Megan also learns about insect chimneys and ghost ponds from WWT’s Principal Research Officer, Dr Sarah Davies.
Series 2 > Episode 3: Ripple effect: people and ponds
Water has a way of calming us “it just does something to us” says Nadeem Perera...but it can also bring us together.
In this episode Megan McCubbin explores the abundant pond life of Cody Dock in East London, which not only attracts the likes of Reed Warblers and Sticklebacks but members of the local community who have all helped transform and shape the area into a rich haven. We also join co-founder and nature activist Nadeem Perera next to one of his favourite slices of nature, right in the heart of Bristol. He tells us how an encounter with a crow near a pond in the heart of his community sparked an interest in birds that would help shape his future and his whole outlook on nature.
To face and help solve the climate crisis we need to work together, and community conservation is one of the most important things we can do. Ponds and mini-wetlands, however small and wherever we may live, need to be looked after because the ripple effects can be huge.
Series 2 > Episode 4: Watching (and waiting) for watervoles
They’re one of our most precious but sadly most threatened species in the UK. So, how can ponds help sustain this wonderful species and why do we need to help them thrive?
We’ve donned our binoculars for this episode as we celebrate the wonder of watching wildlife and go in search of the illusive watervole. Some of Megan McCubbin’s earliest memories were down at a local pond, waiting to catch a glimpse of it’s wildlife and remembers hearing a watervole’s distinctive ‘plop’ for the very first time.
We meet Jo Cartmell in a favourite spot next to her village pond to hear about how she’s dedicated years to monitoring, and blogging about a group of voles who live there (even giving them names). She knows them more than anybody else, will we get to to spot one? And Dr Daniel Foreman of Swansea University explains why such such a quintessentially British pond and wetland species have become so threatened and how we can protect them.
Also find out why ponds are such amazing places for sustaining the life of not just watervoles, but an abundance of species as we take a journey from the bottom of the pond to the surface with Ellie Jones from WWT.
Series 2 > Episode 5: Puddles of wonder
When is a pond not a pond? Well, when it’s a puddle!
When you think of a puddle, children jumping around in their wellies may be one of the first things that come to mind. But there are some types of pond which really have more in common with a puddle, they come and go, they’re wet, then they dry up. They’re known as ephemeral ponds, and in this episode Megan McCubbin heads back to where she grew up, the New Forest to hear their magical story.
The mysterious temporary ponds we’re visiting are even more important because they’re one of the only places in the UK that are home to some very special creatures (and one of the oldest surviving animal species in the world) the tadpole shrimp. Like the ponds they live in they also come and go, get wet and dry up, they lay dormant until the rain comes and then spring back into life.
Megan meets expect Dr Naomi Ewald in the excited hope of seeing one up close. A real and very rare treat for anyone to experience!
Series 2 > Episode 6: What lurks beneath - a Halloween special
Have you ever peered into the blackness of a pond at night and wondered what lurks beneath? Come with us and find out in this special, spooky, episode!
From creatures with unimaginably strange bodies that could be straight out of a sci-fi movie, to the bizarre upside-down swimming water boatmen - life in a pond can be brutal. It really is the world of eat, or be eaten.
Like lots of other habitats, as dark falls, ponds turn other-worldy, yet often we don’t get to experience them. In this episode we’ll show you that there’s lots for us to see, and hear, that we can only experience at nighttime.
Host Megan McCubbin peers into her own pond on a stormy wet night to see what she can see, from the pond creatures around on the surface to the bats overhead.
Hear the spooky and strange sounds underwater with ecologist and underwater sounds expert Jack Greenhalgh. Discover why nature is the source of many of good horror story, with author Lucy Christoper. And previous guests Ellie Jones from WWT and writer Henry Slator share their favourite spooky pond creatures.
You’ll never have a nocturnal nosy at pond in the same way again!
Series 3 > Episode 1: Bouncing bogs: At the source of a river
Have you ever stood beside a river and imagined where it all begins? In this episode of Waterlands, Megan McCubbin takes us to the Flow Country in Scotland, home to the world’s largest expanse of blanket bog, where water seeps slowly through a maze of pools before feeding rivers like the Thurso.
Joined by someone who’s spent a lot of time in this ecosystem, Millie Revel Hayward, Megan explores this fascinating and fluid landscape, discovering how the bog acts like a sponge, absorbing rain and releasing pure water into the ecosystem. As they bounce on the waterlogged land, like a natural trampoline, they reveal how this ancient peatland supports everything from breeding salmon to rare wading birds like the golden plover.
Dr. Mark Everard explains the complex, interconnected systems of rivers, from their underground sources to the impact of human activities like farming. He shares how changes in the landscape can shift a river’s path and flow before it even reaches the surface.
And artist Kathy Hinde dives into the sounds of the bog, crafting a unique soundscape from beneath the blanket of moss, capturing the rhythms of this hidden world.
Series 3 > Episode 2: Rivers and people: a dance across time and space
We are all drawn to the beauty and power of rivers, but have you ever wondered how they have changed us? Or how we have changed them? In this episode, Megan McCubbin takes us to Devon, to meet the river poet Alice Oswald by her ‘pretty little stream’, the Torridge.
Writers and artists through the ages have been drawn to the beauty and power of rivers, and Alice is no exception. The river was a paradise throughout her childhood; a place for skimming stones, catching (and setting-free) minnows and escaping to another reality. She believes we are drawn to the wildness and otherness, as well as to the animals and different, changing landscapes of rivers as they travel from source to sea.
Paul Raven, Author of Rivers: A natural and not-so-natural history, examines the relationship between rivers and people since the ice age and shares how human actions across history have positively and negatively affected the health of our waterways and the creatures that depend on them.
Roisin Taylor, Co-Director of UK Youth 4 Nature shares the important work they are doing to redress the balance and implores us to ‘find a dipper and then you’ll want to save that river.’
Series 3 > Episode 3: River rambling
There is little more grounding than walking along a river. Scientists have shown that spending time near bodies of water, particularly while exercising, can boost your overall health and mood. In this episode of Waterlands, Megan McCubbin takes us on a journey to a remote and secret river in rural Wales followed by a city centre river in Cardiff.
Three different river walkers explain why they do it and how it has changed their life. First up, television presenter (and president of WWT) Kate Humble shares her very special walk home with her trusty companion Teg, from the source of the River Wye to where it joins the River Severn near her home.
The writer, Helia Phoenix takes us on a guided meditation and shares her story of ADHD breakdown, diagnosis and recovery, explaining how mindful walking along the River Taff, helped her access the simple beauty all around - the colour of the wall or the sudden crash-landing of a duck onto water.
Series 3 > Episode 4: Weeds, reeds and healthy streams
Have you ever wondered whether you could look at the plants and animals in a river and tell how healthy it is? In this episode of Waterlands, Megan McCubbin invites us on a journey to a sparkling clear chalk stream, where warblers sing and water crowfoot blooms – the River Wylye in Wiltshire.
She’s joined by someone who has spent 45 years working in river conservation and still loves every second; Andy Thomas, Conservation Officer at the Wild Trout Trust, who explains the different life that can be found in the many different habitats of a healthy river, from reeds in the margins to larvae in the silt, weeds in the gravel and fish in the pools.
Zarah Pattison, who hates the word ‘weed’ almost as much as Megan, shares her knowledge of two invasive plants – Japanese Knotweed and Himalayan Balsam - and explains what to do if you find them.
And Senior Reserves Manager, Rosie Ellis takes us on a tour of WWT Arundel, with its SSSI reedbed and toad patrol.
Series 3 > Episode 5: Rivers and Birds
Amid all the wonderful wildlife that is attracted to rivers, birds are some of the most spectacular. In this episode of Waterlands, Megan McCubbin hears stories of birding and freedom, kingfishers and kittiwakes. David Lindo, aka the Urban Birder, “hit the wall” a couple of times in a gardenless flat in Spain during lockdown. He shares how he sought out a river as soon as the restrictions were lifted, and was brought to tears by the sight and sound of nightingales and Cetti’s warblers.
The sound-recordist Chris Watson takes a bus into town to visit the very noisy, furthest inland colony of kittiwakes in the world. He explains how the birds choose to spend their summers amid the hustle and bustle of downtown Newcastle, under the Tyne bridge.
And musician Nick Penny reveals what he discovered about the iconic kingfisher when he dedicated a year of his life to watching them on the River Nene near his house.
Series 3 > Episode 6: Eels and Estuaries
Where does a river become sea? And where do eels live? In this episode of Waterlands, Megan McCubbin takes us to the Severn estuary – one of the most dynamic estuarine systems in the world and also one of the most important for wildlife in Britain, in search of eels. Joining her on this quest, are three eel fanatics, who have come to know and love this slippery fish from three different perspectives.
Michael Malay is an academic and author, whose book about migration and belonging, Late Lights, recalls the first time he held an elver in his hand. He is drawn to estuaries and stories of belonging and remembers how his mind was blown when he first heard the lifecycle of the European eel.
Andy Don explains the elusive nature of the eel and how confounding and fascinating they are from a scientist’s point of view. Once everywhere, all up and down river systems, to the point of being eaten by the poor and used as fertiliser or taxes, the eel is now critically endangered.
And WWT’s Abigail Mckay explains how the Wetlands Bioscience Team is using cutting-edge eDNA technology to find where eels are – and where they are not, in an attempt to help remove barriers and increase their numbers again.
About this podcast
This podcast takes you on a journey around our incredible wetlands here in the UK – and further afield - revealing their power to shape our future for the better.
Join conservationist and wildlife presenter Megan McCubbin as she takes a closer look at the most fascinating habitats. From a humble garden pond to the rush of a river at the heart of a community, these wetlands have had a huge impact on our lives as well as being home to our most beloved wildlife.
In series 1 explore how wetlands have fed, inspired and transported us from countryside to city, source to sea, with nature expert and film maker Roxy Furman.
Dive beneath the surface of our wetlands through personal stories and conversations with experts to reveal an underwater jungle, the restorative powers of water, tonnes of carbon hidden underground, the things you never knew were lurking in your freshwater and why we need to think like beavers to solve our flood problem.
Our wetlands bring us together across species and continents. They’re the source of life as we know it. Yet wetlands only cover about 6% of our planet, and they’re disappearing fast, despite the fact that people and 40% of all wildlife are reliant on them.
This is a podcast all about the wonderful, sometimes surprising and often underappreciated watery places around us, and how they can help us with some of the biggest issues facing life on this planet.
You’ll never look at a marsh or pond the same way again.
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